v10r ti +

[Robeden]

Oh man. For $168 its hard to turn down a Ti light. Especially when its the specs of a V11R but the looks of a V10R.

[cubebike]

Gents! I tested both the V10Ti+ and the V11R today at the retail store. My plan was to buy both today ,however I have to give up. Reasons behind are
1. IMO the build quality of the Ti+ is not as good as the Ti version. I found a lot of machine grinding markings on the body. Finishing a bit rough for my taste
2. For both the Ti+ and V11R, the titanium switch cap suppose to be improvement. However, the housing and the cap was too tight for me. I would not describe pressing the switch as Smooth operation
3. For V11r, IMO the magnetic control was not as good as th Ti version. It feels lack of friction or lack of grease. It's just not my taste this time.

I haven't tested on the actual output and I decided to let go.

[pol4088]

mine is otw from going gear as of today

[zr24x4er]

Got my tracking info from lj today for my Ti+ so it should be here next week.
Trit cooling fin is waiting on it to get here and a new Trit switch on order that should be here soon.

[arcane]

I got my V10R Ti+ yesterday and the biggest letdown is the rough switch.
I'd rather have a standard black rubber boot that functions smoothly.

[vaskal]

More work for kuku !!!!

[aflashinthenight]

Got my tracking info from lj today for my Ti+ so it should be here next week.
Trit cooling fin is waiting on it to get here and a new Trit switch on order that should be here soon.

May I ask you what your order number was? My order confirmation was #27760
And I haven't heard anything yet..

[zr24x4er]

May I ask you what your order number was? My order confirmation was #27760
And I haven't heard anything yet..

#27684

[rda1]

#27684

Funny, I am 27687, mine should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday.

[JML]

Sending mine back to BJ this afternoon. That switch is just awful and the clip is far too springy (Ti is not a good choice for any kind of clip, because in such thin form it doesn't compare to the properties of spring steel, especially if there's a bend of that degree involved). The clip screws are weird - they're flat head cross-point instead of the far better button or cap head with hex or torx. But BJ has now classifed the light as "not defective" because they're all like that. I'm very disappointed in Sunwayman's work and this kind of response from the US distributor. That will be my last preorder for any light, and my last SWM Ti light. They should have executed far greater care in the machining of the switch's metal parts, or used a better design.

[Fitz]

Sending mine back to BJ this afternoon. That switch is just awful and the clip is far too springy (Ti is not a good choice for any kind of clip, because in such thin form it doesn't compare to the properties of spring steel, especially if there's a bend of that degree involved). The clip screws are weird - they're flat head cross-point instead of the far better button or cap head with hex or torx. But BJ has now classifed the light as "not defective" because they're all like that. I'm very disappointed in Sunwayman's work and this kind of response from the US distributor. That will be my last preorder for any light, and my last SWM Ti light. They should have executed far greater care in the machining of the switch's metal parts, or used a better design.

Not sure what you're saying about the clip screws, mine are button hex head screws.

[F250XLT]

Not sure what you're saying about the clip screws, mine are button hex head screws.

Yup, crappy flat head screws...I'd like to get some button hex heads to replace these.

[ilikelite]

Mine are button hex heads too. I got mine from lj.

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[F250XLT]

Mine are button hex heads too. I got mine from lj.

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I got mine from GG, I wonder if there is a correlation?

[us3rName]

Flat Philips for me from BJ

[Fitz]

Strange, got mine from LJ. Wonder if they ran out of button hex heads and had to go with phillips head screws on later ones?

[F250XLT]

Okay, someone needs figure out what size these screws are so I can buy replacements.

[Mohanjude]

Okay, someone needs figure out what size these screws are so I can buy replacements.

The screws are M2. The bay sells the right sized Ti screws that are the right length.

The clip is pathetic. Not bashing Sunway but I would rather take it off than use this pathetic example that feels like onion skin. I am going to continue to use a Mcgizmo clip or Steves clip.

The switch is ridiculously scratchy to the point that it is no different to the Ti2 switches. Having taken apart it has got worse as mine probably isn't sitting properly. It is quite difficult to unscrew the ring due to the metal centre button - you end up marking it. Remember to losen the clip screws first

[Jalal20]

Mohan can it tailstand with this setup? Coz the switch seems a bit protruding out

The screws are M2. The bay sells the right sized Ti screws that are the right length.

The clip is pathetic. Not bashing Sunway but I would rather take it off than use this pathetic example that feels like onion skin. I am going to continue to use a Mcgizmo clip or Steves clip.

The switch is ridiculously scratchy to the point that it is no different to the Ti2 switches. Having taken apart it has got worse as mine probably isn't sitting properly. It is quite difficult to unscrew the ring due to the metal centre button - you end up marking it. Remember to losen the clip screws first

[Mohanjude]

Yes it can - I just didn't bother tightening up the switch completely.

[zr24x4er]

A care kit has been released for the Ti+.

Sunwayman V10R Ti+ Care PackagePublisher：sunwayman Source： Date：2012-04-10
Dear Customers,

Sunwayman now specially provide V10R Ti+ care packages for your V10R Ti+, to keep your light looking new after daily use! Details please refer to the following,


1. The care package includes following parts:
1). 4pcs hex socket cap screws
2.) 1pc socket head wrench
3.) 2pcs smooth cloth
4). V10R Ti+ care gel: 1ml.

3. How to get one?
1). Newly shipped V10R Ti+ will come with one care package;
2). Those already shipped, you can contact your dealer to obtain one.

[us3rName]

My clip broke yesterday when I clipped it to my utility belt...

BJ informed me that the "care package" is being shipped to them and they will ship out to customers with V10R Ti+ automatically.

[rda1]

I remained optimistic despite many initial impressions. Sadly, I am in the same boat, the clip is weak, it didn't need to be as stout as say a McGizmo but the one included is pretty pathetic. Also, the holes in the clip for the screws are so oversized, the clip moves around easily, I could tighten the screws but will have to be careful not to strip.

Also, the switch is as everyone stated, not smooth, not terribly reliable/consistent in its operation.

One of the boxes was damaged which was also disappointing. Whoever designed the packaging also missed the boat, the lid in no way fits on the box with the contents of the box preventing the lid from seating.

FYI - Both of mine came from LJ and both are identical and have the hex button screws for the clip.

[JML]

Perhaps these issues were all rooted in outsourcing the Ti+ production to another company, as in the Ti2. But they haven't blamed suppliers this time around. (Yet.)

I think what's troubling us is that these two Ti lights -- and Sunwayman's reactions to the problems -- are not consistent with the rest of the company's production history, which has shown the greatest attention to quality control and customer satisfaction. It's as if the Ti lights were released in a hurry to make some money, and perhaps with awareness of the inherent flaws in the anodizing/finish and switch of the Ti2; and then shortly after that fiasco, we have the problems with the finish, switch, and screws/cracks with the clip of the Ti+.

One production and sales glitch is bad. Two, so close in time, is both infuriating and mystifying. It's as if they don't understand the damage such things cause to a company's reputation among opinion leaders (i.e., fans like us on CPF). I'm sure their dealers aren't too pleased, either.

Furthermore, this product has affected the way I think of Battery Junction, a company that had become my "go to" place for purchasing lights and batteries. This is one light they should have taken back without charging a restocking fee. It's not that I don't like the light, it's that the light is defectively designed and poorly executed. Because all are flawed is no excuse for not treating them as defective and taking them back without charging a restocking fee; they should all be sent back to Sunwayman by dealers. If a company's light was designed in a way that caused fires or resulted in failure, then they'd all be defective; a defectively designed light is no less defective than a single example that has a problem. That's a fundamental principle in product liability law.

The rushed release of a "care kit" doesn't make up for the design and execution issues, which would have been seen by anyone who inspected a sample of lights before shipment.

[Fitz]

I would have liked to see a silicon switch cover included in the "care package" since the existing metal cover is causing so many gripes at this point.

[F250XLT]

I would have liked to see a silicon switch cover included in the "care package" since the existing metal cover is causing so many gripes at this point.

That would have made sense...But then again, it would have meant they acknowledged their Ti cap was a failure.

[JWRitchie76]

I would have liked to see a silicon switch cover included in the "care package" since the existing metal cover is causing so many gripes at this point.

Baffling they didn't include it?!?!

[rda1]

I would have liked to see a silicon switch cover included in the "care package" since the existing metal cover is causing so many gripes at this point.

I agree, and a stouter clip would restore some confidence in Sunwayman as well.

[cubebike]

I think i am lucky that I could test and play around the actual product before i have to make decision. I think Sunwayman should step up and give all a good explaination and fix their fault.

[HIDBlue]

Well, I finally got my Ti+, and although I was hoping for the best, I pretty much got what everyone else has already noted.

I'm not sure if Sunwayman rushed these through production just to get them out to their dealers, but my Ti+ is just chock full of machining marks (see pics). It doesn't even appear like they tried to polish off the machining marks and just gives the whole light an unrefined, unfinished look. I'm kinda disappointed in the fit and finish of the Ti+ and those machining marks are pretty much all over the flat surfaces of the body as well as the indentations on the control ring. This is my first Titanium light so if these kinds of machining marks are common on Ti lights please let me know.

Also, the finish on my Ti+ was more of a matte Ti finish rather than the smooth, polished finish as shown in the advertising photos over on the marketplace. After some serious hand polishing with metal polish, I finally obtained the polished finish but that was solely due to some serious elbow grease on my part.

The Ti switch....ugh...I can only describe the feel and sound as 'squeaky,' if that's accurate. The feel and sound is much worse than I expected. Everyone was right...the Ti switch tends to squeak and stick unless you hit it perfectly in the center.

Man, I have learned my lesson on this one. Sometimes, it just don't pay to pre-order a light without seeing some CPF reviews/input/photos first...