Poll for lumen amount on Thrunite TN second mode

[jcalvert]

My impressions of the Thrunite Ti has been moved to the review thread by "Beacon of Light".

[zossima]

Or you could say 13 votes for 20 lumens or less and 11 votes for 40 lumens or more. Or maybe 13 votes for less than 30 lumens and 11 for more than 30.

[Kaichu Dento]

I believe this presentation showing higher preference for higher high, to be flawed, although understandably so. The way the results can be interpreted is determined largely by where you prefer to see the crossover point in preference, and if there existed two options it would look much different - 20 or less would leave you with a 13 > 11 preference for a high lower than the initial run has.

I interpret the results to be asking for a lower high than the present 60, but hope that there may be a couple output options eventually put into play that would satisfy the specialty group as well as standard users group. It seems to me that a .04>5 low level specialty light and 5>60 standard users light, at the present price point, both versions would sell like mad, especially once people realized how much light .04>5 actually is.


Well, after writing my post I see that I'm not the only one seeing the results in this manner. Zossima, you beat me to it, but evidently we saw the same thing at the same time!

[Beacon of Light]

I agree with you 100% I think the numbers to the unfamiliar and non flashaholics would think it is too dim to be useful until they had one in their hands. The 5/60 would be a great EDC keychain light for non flashaholics as well.

I believe this presentation showing higher preference for higher high, to be flawed, although understandably so. The way the results can be interpreted is determined largely by where you prefer to see the crossover point in preference, and if there existed two options it would look much different - 20 or less would leave you with a 13 > 11 preference for a high lower than the initial run has.

I interpret the results to be asking for a lower high than the present 60, but hope that there may be a couple output options eventually put into play that would satisfy the specialty group as well as standard users group. It seems to me that a .04>5 low level specialty light and 5>60 standard users light, at the present price point, both versions would sell like mad, especially once people realized how much light .04>5 actually is.
Well, after writing my post I see that I'm not the only one seeing the results in this manner. Zossima, you beat me to it, but evidently we saw the same thing at the same time!

[DFiorentino]

Owning one that is unmolested and one that is and measuring in the 40+ lumen range. I can honestly say that I know what my own preferences are. <40 lumens for high is not something that I would prefer; and I feel the current low is perfect. So where does that place me as I am not unfamiliar and most certainly not a non-flashaholic. But, I own two already, so what I say in this poll really doesn't matter anyway...

-DF

[gcbryan]

I think we'll release two mode

one is 0.4-60

the other is 3-60lumens

Did you mean to type 0.4 or .04 (which was what has been talked about up to now)?

[Burgess]

I voted 10, but anything between 5-20 would entice me to buy one.

Me too !



BTW -- Beacon of Light: why does your thread title say Thrunite TN ? ? ?


Isn't this model called the Ti ? ? ?




Oh, and thank you to Thrunite, for offering this lovely little gem in TWO versions ! ! !




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[davecroft]

Or you could say 13 votes for 20 lumens or less and 11 votes for 40 lumens or more. Or maybe 13 votes for less than 30 lumens and 11 for more than 30.

Exactly! The old saying - 'Lies, Damn Lies - and Statistics' springs to mind. I was originally trying to make the point that the poll results can be interpreted differently, Jorgen interpreted the figures one way and zossima in a different way to show the results in favour of lower lumens, I was just illustrating that they could also be used to favour higher lumen levels, that's all.

With the low number of votes cast though, it's debateable whether it is possible to draw any significant conclusions either way.

[Beacon of Light]

Looking over ther poll I set up here is another way to look at it which should be fair. 20 lumens or less since there are 2 lower choices than 20 lumens, and 20 lumens or more and there are 2 higher choices than 20 lumens. Basically the 20 lumens would be included in both the under and over. The example will explain better than my words are seeming to do.

5 lumens/10 lumens/20 lumens= 4+6+5= 15 votes

40 lumens/60 lumens/20 lumens= 4+10+5= 19 votes

[gcbryan]

Or almost twice as many people wanted 60 lumens as wanted any other single choice. Let's face it there are a few people on CPF that want a .04 low and a 10 or 20 lumen (max) high. The rest of the flashlight buying public that will buy this type of light want (I'm guessing) a 2 lumen low and a 60 lumen high.

Would everyone agree (I'm just asking) that the later combination will sell a lot more units for Thrunite?

[Kaichu Dento]

Or almost twice as many people wanted 60 lumens as wanted any other single choice. Let's face it there are a few people on CPF that want a .04 low and a 10 or 20 lumen (max) high. The rest of the flashlight buying public that will buy this type of light want (I'm guessing) a 2 lumen low and a 60 lumen high.

Would everyone agree (I'm just asking) that the later combination will sell a lot more units for Thrunite?

Exactly. The .04>10-20 is more of a niche light, while the 2>60 is a great combo for almost everyone, including those of us who want the lower level version as well.

[davecroft]

Or almost twice as many people wanted 60 lumens as wanted any other single choice. Let's face it there are a few people on CPF that want a .04 low and a 10 or 20 lumen (max) high. The rest of the flashlight buying public that will buy this type of light want (I'm guessing) a 2 lumen low and a 60 lumen high.

Would everyone agree (I'm just asking) that the later combination will sell a lot more units for Thrunite?

Definately. I think that bearing in mind the low cost of this light, Thrunite will have to sell a lot to make a decent profit. So they have been quite shrewd in offering 2 versions - hopefully they can make money on the 'crowd pleaser' which can enable them to take a risk on the more specialist model.

[Gregozedobe]

If the two versions were around .04/5-10 lumens (firefly) and 2-5/60 lumens then I'd buy a couple of the firefly versions for myself, and a few of the higher level versions for edc, loaners and gifts. If they had a good clip I'd buy even more as that make them more versatile as gifts (and yes, I'd be happy to pay a little extra for a clip).

I await developments with interest.

[azpops]

I placed my vote on 20 lumens since 30 wasn't listed. It seems the jump from moonlight goes just a tab too high for what I'd like it to be. The reason is, I use the low setting when I'm with the dogs while I have the TN11 in hand and my EDC is in my pocket. So as of present, I holster the TN11, then take the EDC out.