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    Default TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Dear Sir:

    We’ve released our new flashlight; please see one of the reviews below.

    http://www.light-reviews.com/thrunite_tn12/

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...door-beamshots

    The TN12 has a safety circuit to protect the driver and the LED from overheating.

    How does it work?

    The maximum safe temperature on the driver is set to 85°C, the driver will check the temperature every 10 seconds and if the temperature is higher than 85°C, it will drop the current by 50mA every 10 seconds until the temperature drops below the safe temperature. Once the driver cools to below 80°C, it will start increasing the current by 50mA every 10 seconds if it is below 80C.


    Why has Thrunite adopted this technology? What are the advantages of it?

    With the development of LED power, flashlight users dream that their flashlight can produce more lumens but keep the same compact sizes they are familiar with


    To achieve more LED power requires more current, TN12 uses a Cree XM-L U2 LED with the maximum luminous efficiency, which means the safety of using at its maximum potential also needs to be considered. Because the higher current, heat dissipation may become a crucial factor to flashlight reliability. In order for the TN12 to have good heat dissipation we designed it boldly through two aspects: firstly, we used a copper board to make the heat conduction of LED . Why use a cooper board? Because cooper has the better heat conduction ability and it can let the bottom pad of the LED to stick on to the copper board directly. Because of this, it can achieve thermal isolation efficiently. On the contrary, Al board’s heat dispersion can not reach this capability. So by using a copper board, the LED's lifespan is extended through its good heat dispersion.

    Even though the copper board is capable of dispersing heat quickly, there is still a significant amount of heat. The temperature will increase quickly, which may lead to damage of the circuitry. The heat then transfers to the body of the flashlight, which can harm the flashlight user. Because the flashlight body has become so hot, the user will shut it off until it has cooled, rendering the flashlight useless.

    To solve this dilemma, the Thrunite TN12 has adopted another key piece of engineering. Electrical components of the circuitry monitor the temperature of the flashlight constantly to ensure safe use throughout the life of the flashlight. All safety temperatures of electronic component is set to 85 degree, if the temperature is higher than 85 degree, the performance of electronic component will be affected, it also can be potential threat to the flashlight life. So we set 80 degree as the highest temperature to protect the driver. This not only protects the circuitry from overheating but it protects the user from any harm.
    Thrunite always pursues more brightness, more efficiency, more stability and more safety. By many testing we find that if we adopt this method of controlling temperature, we can get the most brightness at the same time can ensure the safety of usage. By doing so, the Thrunite TN12 can reach 690 lumens amazingly.

    The other good features on TN12


    1: The latest LED with copper board for LED perfect heat sink

    2: Firefly Mode with longer runtime:
    We design the Firefly mode lower than 0.08lumens. can get 695 hours run time

    3: lumens:
    They can get 690 lumens momentary with 2Cr123A batteries. It is perfect for EDC. It make the enemy lost tmeparry attack!

    4:Simpler User interface:
    Just loosen and tighten head for next stage with memory. Forwards click for momentary on.

    TN12 Specification

    • Cree XM-L U2 LED with a lifespan of 50,000 hours
    • Uses two 3V CR123A batteries (Lithium) or one 18650 rechargeable battery (Li-ion)
    • 126mm (Length) x 25.4mm (Diameter)
    • 66gram weight (excluding batteries)
    • Digitally regulated output - maintains constant brightness
    • Cooper base plate for more efficient heatsinking
    • Max output: 705 lumens with more than 1 hours for 2 Cr123A
    • Max runtime:695 Hours
    • Firefly: 0.09lumens. 695 hours. low: 30 lumens:65 hours.mid: 95 lumens: 9 hours. max output: 705 lumens. 72 minutes. strobe: 705 lumens. 140 minutes
    • Max beam distance:205m
    • Peak beam intensity:19536cd
    • Impact resistance:1.2m
    • Waterproof to IPX-8 standard
    • Reverse polarity protection, to protect from improper battery installation
    •patent Temperature control current to avoid the over heat on the surface and protect the driver to be damaged
    • slip-resistant body design
    • Removable Stainless steel clips
    • Tactical tail switch with momentary-on function
    • Made of durable aircraft-grade aluminum
    • Premium Type III hard-anodized anti-abrasive finish
    • Toughened ultra-clear glass lens with anti-reflective coating

    OperationPower on/off switch Press the push button half way for momentary on. Press the bush button completely (click) to turn on the flashlights. The lights will stay on until the push button is pressed fully to turn off
    Mode switch To switch functions: Loosen and tighten the head for next stage From Firefly. Low mid light and strobe

    MSRP: 75 USD
    Last edited by ThruNite; 10-20-2011 at 06:19 PM. Reason: 22

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Are there any reviews or information about the "TI", or just the "TN12"?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Looks good. I hope this doesn't have some of the issues the 2xCR123 Neutron series I remember reading about.
    AAA Runtime Thread & Test Results:
    Group A
    (completed) / Group B (completed) / Group C (completed)

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=287386

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Am I misreading HKJ's review? He says 1x18650 or 2xRCR123 is supported, but 2xCR123A is not, and shows some runtime plots to show why. Could you clarify?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Talmadge View Post
    Am I misreading HKJ's review? He says 1x18650 or 2xRCR123 is supported, but 2xCR123A is not, and shows some runtime plots to show why. Could you clarify?
    can fit 2*CR123A!

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Quote Originally Posted by ThruNite View Post
    can fit 2*CR123A!
    lol Yes, sorry, I know they can fit ... just wondering whether HKJ had a typo, or the specs above did, or there was a change in policy thanks

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Talmadge View Post
    Am I misreading HKJ's review? He says 1x18650 or 2xRCR123 is supported, but 2xCR123A is not, and shows some runtime plots to show why. Could you clarify?
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Talmadge View Post
    lol Yes, sorry, I know they can fit ... just wondering whether HKJ had a typo, or the specs above did, or there was a change in policy thanks
    That was directly from the specifications. The light can easily fit 2xCR123, but it has a very short runtime on high due to the very high current drain and high temperature.

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Hope you release some new reviews out soon!

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Although I hate CW I bought the TI anyways. I like the two modes and for the price I don't feel ripped off having to mod it.
    People ask me why I always carry a flashlight......until they need one.

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    For the TN12, could you please verify the UI? If I'm on firefly do I have to loosen and tighten 4 times to get to turbo?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Any word on when the TN-11 will be available ?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Quote Originally Posted by ThruNite View Post
    • Max beam distance:205m
    • Peak beam intensity:19536cd
    These specification is pure bollocks ...Peak beam intensity and max beam distance are strictly related to each other and one value doesn't match to the other. This light, according to ANSI, doesn't have max distance of 205m, nor it has peak beam intensity of 19K cd.

    Thrunite, when you claim some "ANSI" specifications, keep them real, because that's what they are for. To show REAL characteristics of the light.

    I like Thrunite flashlights, because of sturdy construction and well thought design ...but when I'm reading such nonsence, I instantly loose any interest in that particular light.

    By the way... In your TN10 and TN11 models, ANSI specification are also out of this world. Please, take a time and read about ANSI and how the parameters are measured and calculated, because, right now, what you write on the boxes is simply pathetic.

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    I do not think so

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Quote Originally Posted by coolperl View Post
    These specification is pure bollocks ...Peak beam intensity and max beam distance are strictly related to each other and one value doesn't match to the other. This light, according to ANSI, doesn't have max distance of 205m, nor it has peak beam intensity of 19K cd.

    Thrunite, when you claim some "ANSI" specifications, keep them real, because that's what they are for. To show REAL characteristics of the light.

    I like Thrunite flashlights, because of sturdy construction and well thought design ...but when I'm reading such nonsence, I instantly loose any interest in that particular light.

    By the way... In your TN10 and TN11 models, ANSI specification are also out of this world. Please, take a time and read about ANSI and how the parameters are measured and calculated, because, right now, what you write on the boxes is simply pathetic.
    coolperl,

    I'm fairly sure that ThruNite does not measure the max beam distance, thus they must measure peak beam intensity to calculate it. (following FL1 guidelines)
    Assuming that is accurate, Max beam distance is calculated as follows:
    Max beam distance (in meters) = sqrt((peak beam intensity)/0.25lux) = sqrt(19536/0.25) = sqrt(78144) ~= 279.54m.

    From what I see, isn't this underrating?

    Craig
    Last edited by csshih; 10-31-2011 at 02:39 AM.

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    I know how these values are calculated. That's why I wrote about strict relation between them

    However, there are two problems:

    1) When claiming ANSI results, there's no place for underrating. Either something is made according to ANSI, or it's not. Thrunite put under ANSI results, values that are not calculated by ANSI standards.

    2) According to Mev's review, TN12 scores 5630 lux/1m (or "candelas" if you like). That's not even 30% of claimed value. Now, that's serious overrating by a manufacturer, isn't it?

    So, what is the point of claiming all these "results", when they are totally misleading and useless?

    Imagine buying a new car. In the specs, it has 200HP and max speed of 160mph. In real tests, it turned out, that the car has 80HP and max speed of 90mph. What would you think about manufacturer? I know, it's different scale problem. Nevertheless, it leaves bad taste in mouth.

    Suming up, such practices are highly unprofessional and put in question credibility of manufacturer, no matter how good the product is. Why it's so hard to put real values on the box? Is it because Thrunite don't know how, or just don't want?

    OK. End of rant.

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Why is the Ti named "Ti" but madeof aluminum? Did you guys not know that Ti is the symbol for titanium?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    It's been a week, since I posted about fake ANSI claiming on the Thrunite flashlights.

    Why there's no response from Thrunite ? I guess, you agree, that the specifications you provide regarding throw distance / candelas value, are wrong.

    ...So are you going to do something about it?

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Excellent. Thanks to coolperl's endorsement of the TN12 (and because the light seems perfect for my needs), I will order one soon as I sell a couple things.
    I can't wait!

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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    I just recieved my TN12 yesterday. I'm running it on an 18650. I have tried an IMR cell and Lion cells.

    Firefly: 0.09lumens. 695 hours. low: 30 lumens:65 hours.mid: 95 lumens: 9 hours. max output: 705 lumens. 72 minutes. strobe: 705 lumens. 140 minutes
    - Max beam distance:205m
    - Peak beam intensity:19536cd

    When I first read the peak beam intensity spec of 19536cd, I was expecting the 19536 to be a lux measurement and not candela.

    My eyes find selfbuilt's 5,800 peak throw lux @ 1m to be accurate when compared to other lights I own. 152 - 205m throw seems correct.

    Thank you ThruNite for this light. It's my favorite EDC format and it takes an 18650. It produces a mega wall of well diffused light. The GID tail cap is a bonus.







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    Default Re: TN12 releaset two new lights TN12 and Ti

    Hi,tThe GID tail cap is a bonus and i assembled it, but I think it does not realy shine long, my gitd o-rings of a crelant 7v2 shine the hole night long.
    Where can I buy a cap the shines so long?

    Best Regards

    Klaus

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