Big Bruiser? http://elektrolumens.com/Big-Bruiser/BigBruiser.html

[ElektroLumens]

Wayne,

How many rubber O-rings are there on each end of the Big bruiser? Would it be better for a double O-ring on each end for extra water resistance like what you did for the Tsunami, I mean for what it is you can always make it more durable. Is it possible to take a picture of all three flashlight including one of your EDC-MCE so we can eyeball and compare the size differences. I am really concerned on the run time of the Big Bruiser. Will there be an option for just placing 3 XML reflectors instead of a one piece optic lens?

Richard

One O-ring at each joint. This is not intended as a diving light, and one o-ring is sufficient for water resistance.

I'll take more pictures comparing all you mention.

Run time will be short.

Reflectors will not fit, unless I enlarge the diameter of the flashlight.

Wayne

[elipem01]

I'd also like to know the actual runtime on the Big Bruiser. I realize it will be short because of the massive output but I'm curious on exact runtimes. Also just to clarify, a high/low version of the Big Bruiser isn't possible in its current size? Ideally that would be the perfect light to me. What batteries would you recommend using with this light? 26650 is a new size for me and I don't know what the best options are. Thanks.

[ElektroLumens]

I'd also like to know the actual runtime on the Big Bruiser. I realize it will be short because of the massive output but I'm curious on exact runtimes. Also just to clarify, a high/low version of the Big Bruiser isn't possible in its current size? Ideally that would be the perfect light to me. What batteries would you recommend using with this light? 26650 is a new size for me and I don't know what the best options are. Thanks.

I'll have to do a run time test. Probably 25 minutes?

I designed this flashlight for pedal-to-the-metal operation. There are several sources to buy a battery for this flashlight, do a Google search. I included a source to buy a battery that will work (26650 LIMN) and a charger on the web page for the Big Bruiser.

Here's a link for a LIMN 26650: http://www.batteryspace.com/limnnire...ated148wh.aspx

and another: http://www.lighthound.com/Lighthound...ry_p_3478.html

LIMN technology is very safe compared to other chemistry Lithium batteries. I hear it will just pop and ooze goo if it shorts or has some problems. Li-Ion can catch fire, and is the reason protection circuitry is required.

Wayne

[Jeff Bonwick]

For Big Bruiser, yes, single mode. That's why I'm also going to offer Gutsy, which will be the same beam, but low/high power levels. Adding a switch and multi-levels of brightness makes it much longer. Probably Gutsy will only be offered when I do a production run, as the switching mechanism is more complex, lots of small parts to make, so it may be a while before I offer it?

To keep the Big Bruiser at only 6" long, I'm using the twisty on/off/momentary type switch. I know it's not for everybody. Some customers only want/need a single mode, and twisty type switch is okay. For it's size, quite amazing brightness, same as FireSword-V, but way smaller (and less expensive).

Sales are commencing for Big Bruiser, from my shopping cart. http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/car...ct=Big+Bruiser

Wayne

Awesome! I love it. Just ordered one.

[New User]

Wayne,

I think deciding to go with the one mode, twist on/off is the right idea. I also think using 3 x XML instead of 1 x SST-90 is the right idea.

Your web page for it says runtime of 1 hour. I would also like to know tested runtime before ordering.

Also, can you clarify the beam pattern? Is the Big Bruiser beamshot you posted using 3 x XML or SST-90?

The thing holding me back from ordering just now mostly, is that I would want HA-III ano like my EDC-MCE and Firesword. Given that both of these are floody, I would also like more throw for this one.

Looks good though, thanks.

[Jeff Bonwick]

Wayne,

How did you end up driving Big Bruiser? Is it basically 3 XM-Ls in parallel with direct drive? If so, did it end up needing a small resistor like the EDC-XML, or is there enough voltage sag at 9A that it's not necessary? Just curious.

Also, what bin are the XM-Ls? Any U2 on hand?

[ElektroLumens]

Wayne,

I think deciding to go with the one mode, twist on/off is the right idea. I also think using 3 x XML instead of 1 x SST-90 is the right idea.

Your web page for it says runtime of 1 hour. I would also like to know tested runtime before ordering.

Also, can you clarify the beam pattern? Is the Big Bruiser beamshot you posted using 3 x XML or SST-90?

The thing holding me back from ordering just now mostly, is that I would want HA-III ano like my EDC-MCE and Firesword. Given that both of these are floody, I would also like more throw for this one.

Looks good though, thanks.

Oops! Run time is not 1 hour, probably more like 25 minutes, I'll fix that.
I do not have the settup to do HAIII hard anodizing. Just HAII clear (silver)
The beam is comparable to the FireSword-IV or FireSword-V, perhaps a bit narrower, but not much. I'll get out and see if I can get some comparisons, or maybe shining on a wall might do the trick. If you like the beam of the EDC-MCE, or FireSword, than you'll also like the beam of Big Bruiser.

The Big Bruiser beam shots are with 3 x XML LEDs.

The Litttle Bruiser uses a IRIS 35mm collimator, and nearly all the light goes into the beam with little side spill. So even though it is 1/3 as bright, the beam throws same Big Bruiser, just not as big a swath of light.

For most uses a narrow beam is not very useful. A super narrow beam is good for about 3 things: 1)Impress other flashaholics 2)Viewing distances 3) Blinding hapless unsuspecting non-flashaholics.

Wayne

[texas cop]

Are any of the heads interchangable? I really like the idea of the Gutsy head on the Little Bruiser body, and vice versa. I'm really tempted to buy both and if I could lego 2 lights into 4 that would really be nice.

[texas cop]

This may be asking too much but could you please show some pictures of the insides. For myself on any mechanical device the insides are where the curiosity starts.

[ElektroLumens]

Are any of the heads interchangable? I really like the idea of the Gutsy head on the Little Bruiser body, and vice versa. I'm really tempted to buy both and if I could lego 2 lights into 4 that would really be nice.

Not interchangeable, but could possibly be. I designed Gutsy to have more cooling power, as it houses 3 XML LEDs powered on high at 9A. Little Bruiser only has one XML LED, so cooling not much of an issue. As long as I'm making the parts as per order, I suppose I could mix em up.

I would not use the Little Bruiser head on Gutsy for a couple of reasons: 1) not enough cooling power 2)Gutsy has a more complex inside design for switching high/low by spinning the head. In other words, the Gutsy head design could be fitted to a Little Bruiser body (Little Gutsy?), but not a Little Bruiser head on Gutsy. However, running 9A in Gutsy, it probably needs the extra mass of the long body for cooling? 9A is a tremendous amount of power for such a small size flashlight.

You could email me about it I suppose.

Wayne

[New User]

Is it your intention once you have final design etc to have some machined and Type III ano'd for you like your other lights?

I would not want a very narrow beam, just not quite the all flood of the EDC-MCE and Firesword, as I already have that with those.

Do you have any other options to change the beam pattern? Different optics if requested?

Thanks.

[makapuu]

Sorry, accidentally edited this post. Unintentional. Please repost it, I don't remember what it said. I thought I was editing my own post. Sorry. Wayne

[ElektroLumens]

Is it your intention once you have final design etc to have some machined and Type III ano'd for you like your other lights?

I would not want a very narrow beam, just not quite the all flood of the EDC-MCE and Firesword, as I already have that with those.

Do you have any other options to change the beam pattern? Different optics if requested?

Thanks.

>Is it your intention once you have final design etc to have some machined and Type III ano'd for you like your other lights?

Probably.


>I would not want a very narrow beam, just not quite the all flood of the EDC-MCE and Firesword, as I already have that with those.

The quest for the perfect beam. I think it's like what you describe.

>Do you have any other options to change the beam pattern? Different optics if requested?

Only if I make the diameter larger, then I could use various 20mm optics or reflectors that are available for the XML LED.

Wayne

[elipem01]

You don't happen to have a Maelstrom S12 that you can do some comparison beamshots with do you? I'd really like to see what the difference between these two would look like.

[ElektroLumens]

You don't happen to have a Maelstrom S12 that you can do some comparison beamshots with do you? I'd really like to see what the difference between these two would look like.

Sorry, I don't.


Wayne

[Jeff Bonwick]

You don't happen to have a Maelstrom S12 that you can do some comparison beamshots with do you? I'd really like to see what the difference between these two would look like.

I don't have the S12 (800 lumens), but I do have an EDC-XML (which I measure at ~800 lm), a Lumintop TD-15X (720 ANSI lm), and a Fenix TK45 (760 ANSI lm), all of which are in the S12 ballpark. When my Big Bruiser arrives I'll post comparison shots of all four.

[Jeff Bonwick]

Wayne,

How did you end up driving Big Bruiser? Is it basically 3 XM-Ls in parallel with direct drive? If so, did it end up needing a small resistor like the EDC-XML, or is there enough voltage sag at 9A that it's not necessary? Just curious.

Also, what bin are the XM-Ls? Any U2 on hand?

Ping... I think this got lost in the shuffle.

[elipem01]

I don't have the S12 (800 lumens), but I do have an EDC-XML (which I measure at ~800 lm), a Lumintop TD-15X (720 ANSI lm), and a Fenix TK45 (760 ANSI lm), all of which are in the S12 ballpark. When my Big Bruiser arrives I'll post comparison shots of all four.

Sounds great. Looking forward to it.

[ElektroLumens]

Ping... I think this got lost in the shuffle.

Big Bruiser is direct drive. However, there is some resistance in the wiring and solder connections, which apparently is enough, and although the Limn 26650 is rated to put out 10A, there probably is a bit of internal resistance. I'm using T6, no U2 on hand as of yet.

Wayne

[ElektroLumens]

I don't have the S12 (800 lumens), but I do have an EDC-XML (which I measure at ~800 lm), a Lumintop TD-15X (720 ANSI lm), and a Fenix TK45 (760 ANSI lm), all of which are in the S12 ballpark. When my Big Bruiser arrives I'll post comparison shots of all four.

Beam is comparable to the FireSword in relation to beam pattern and brightness, but I think a bit more focused. The FireSword is much larger, 2.5" approx diameter head, and overall length is around 14", Big Bruiser is about 6" long and head is 2" diameter. Huge difference in size.


Wayne

[Blerv]

Wayne,

These lights look amazing and have spurred a personal liquidation. Lol.

Curious if you have any idea what the Gutsy is going to run price wise. Also, approximate length.

[ElektroLumens]

Wayne,

These lights look amazing and have spurred a personal liquidation. Lol.

Curious if you have any idea what the Gutsy is going to run price wise. Also, approximate length.

Gutsy is 8" long. Price will probably be $269.99.

[ElektroLumens]

Big Bruiser will also be available using the SST-90 LED. Little Bruiser will be added to the shopping cart when I have time to do so. Gutsy I am going to wait a while to sell, might not offer it as a custom build, not sure. I'll try and quickly get the few out that were ordered so the owners can give their impressions and comparisons.

The beam of the Bruiser flashlights is not narrow, it's on the flood side, like the FireSword. I want to say this so no one is disappointed with expectations of a super narrow beam. The beam is not quite as flood as the FireSword flashlights. I'll see if I can get a wall beam shot done today giving a comparison.

Wayne

[makapuu]

I'm interested in seeing a beam comparison between the 3 XML's and the SST-90.

[ElektroLumens]

I'm interested in seeing a beam comparison between the 3 XML's and the SST-90.

Okay.

Wayne

[texas cop]

Thanks for the quick email response. My work email was a bit short so I thought I might clarify 1 of the specs a bit. The 'Gutsy' head with the high/low settings and the bruiser endcap. I'm wanting to put a cone on it for traffic control at the low setting, at 100-200 lumens it should have a great run time. The enlarged endcap helps to keep the light in hand on cold, wet nights. I was really pleased with the name you suggested so you've already sold 1. But with the wife not so happy about the price of my toys I'll have a friend do the paypal.

[ElektroLumens]

Thanks for the quick email response. My work email was a bit short so I thought I might clarify 1 of the specs a bit. The 'Gutsy' head with the high/low settings and the bruiser endcap. I'm wanting to put a cone on it for traffic control at the low setting, at 100-200 lumens it should have a great run time. The enlarged endcap helps to keep the light in hand on cold, wet nights. I was really pleased with the name you suggested so you've already sold 1. But with the wife not so happy about the price of my toys I'll have a friend do the paypal.

Okay. Texas Gutsy?

[Jeff Bonwick]

Big Bruiser is direct drive. However, there is some resistance in the wiring and solder connections, which apparently is enough, and although the Limn 26650 is rated to put out 10A, there probably is a bit of internal resistance. I'm using T6, no U2 on hand as of yet.

Wayne

Excellent, thanks. Really looking forward to this beast!

[Jeff Bonwick]

Okay. Texas Gutsy?

I dunno, gutsy doesn't seem to match this light's personality. It looks like a beefier Maglite. How about Magnum, as a subtle homage to both Maglite and a small but powerful firearm?

BTW, my first ever 26650 batteries arrived today. They look pretty excited.

[customstockz]

I dunno, gutsy doesn't seem to match this light's personality. It looks like a beefier Maglite. How about Magnum, as a subtle homage to both Maglite and a small but powerful firearm?

BTW, my first ever 26650 batteries arrived today. They look pretty excited.

I agree with you Jeff Bonwick about the naming the gusty to the Magnum sounds way better. Jeff Bonwick what brand did you go for? for the 26650 batteries?