CPF Upgrade - 11/26-27/10

[JNieporte]

We appreciate the upgrade

[Taipan]

Tks for the upgrade Greta. Being patient counts. Still seeing only this :

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The requested document was not found on this server.
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Web Server at candlepowerforums.com

[ma_sha1]

I can see all the advertisers in one page w/o waiting for ad rotation here:
http://97.74.124.146/ Then the page links to CPF vs CPFMP, but CPF is still not ready.

If this IP is the server, does this mean CPF is moving to the server that CPFMP already on

I am having withdraw...Please, don't force me to go out on the weekend... up.....p......p........

[Greta]

CPFClassifieds was moved to the new server last week. That is NOT the same server that the MP resides on. I do not keep the two forums on the same server. Just not a smart idea.

The database is almost completely uploaded now (about another hour, give or take). Then I'll need to do a few other things and we should be back up and running. So just a couple more hours - shouldn't be more than that...

[Teej]

I can see all the advertisers in one page w/o waiting for ad rotation here:
http://97.74.124.146/ Then the page links to CPF vs CPFMP, but CPF is still not ready.

If this IP is the server, does this mean CPF is moving to the server that CPFMP already on

I am having withdraw...Please, don't force me to go out on the weekend... up.....p......p........

LOL

Hang in there buddy!

[davyro]

I don't drink alchohol but i might just have to have a drink if CPF isn't back up soon to occupy my mind

[Greta]

Ugh... I hate moving to new servers and having to reconfigure every little thing and upgrade the software on the server because it is only provisioned with what the server host considers to be "the latest stable version"... which is another way of saying, "the version that was outdated 3 years ago"...

[zenbeam]

I'm sure glad I found this thread. So CPF is truly undergoing re-constructive surgery. I thought I ticked off someone and got banned. Not that I really think I posted anything particularly controversial or offensive.

What's weird is when you go to one of those sites that tests whether or not a site is up and running and it keeps saying "up and running, just not for you"..... Kind of makes you wonder you know?

[duro]

97.74.124.146 is the new IP. But the files are still being transferred between the servers. All should be resolved sometime in the morning. No promises, of course.

Yes, this was scheduled - for me. I did not announce it because the exploit that existed here at the MarketPlace still exists on the old CPF server. The exploit was "activated" here at the MarketPlace when I announced I was going to do some upgrading due to an exploit. I did not want to risk having the same thing happen with CPF so I did not announce my intentions.

I don't buy it.

[Greta]

I don't buy it.

That's your prerogative. I honestly think no one really cares what you buy or don't buy. I certainly don't.

[duro]

Sometimes honesty is the best policy.

[Lynx_Arc]

Sometimes honesty is the best policy.

You can't be honest with someone that is hacking your site if it helps them in their efforts.

[nbp]

That's your prerogative. I honestly think no one really cares what you buy or don't buy. I certainly don't.

For real.

I don't really care what the reason for the new server is. If it makes the site faster and more reliable (i.e. reduces downtime, connection errors, double posts etc.) I am all for it.

[chip willis]

What he said, can't wait til it's back up and running, it's my home away from home, plue I have a pm..........and don't know what it's about.

[Empath]

I don't buy it.

Sometimes honesty is the best policy.

Trolling, in and of itself, merits corrective measures. Trolling as a form of entertainment to offer "look what I'm doing over at CPF" bragging at other boards merits permanent removal.

You, Duro, and your additional member accounts of "Digitalerik" and "Digitalduro" have all been suspended.

Suspended status of Duro has been lifted, following correspondence between us. Restoration of his other two accounts will not be permitted.

[Rees]

I miss looking through CPF. Cant wait for it to be back up!

[Greta]

I've run into a snag with conflicting versions of software. I'm working on getting some help with it as I know it's not a difficult problem to solve but I think I've run into the "forest for the trees" scenario where I just can't work it out at the moment.

[Kevin1322]

I, like most everyone else, is really missing CPF this weekend and can't wait to have it back up. However, if it wasn't for the efforts of so many, CPF wouldn't even exist, let alone be such a treasure chest of information. On behalf of most of the members here, thank you Greta and all the others for all the work you do on these two awesome sites!!!

[Bullzeyebill]

I miss looking through CPF. Cant wait for it to be back up!

Really nice user name you have.

Bill

[Taipan]

Greta, Empath, Bullzeyebill and our other CPF mods, your intrepid efforts to restore order here in every which way possible are truly appreciated. It will not be forgotten. Don't be disheartened or distracted by doubts. There are also many others here who'll take it and back you guys up 100%!

[Jeff Bonwick]

Really nice user name you [rees] have.

Bill

I don't get it.

[ma_sha1]

Greta,

I have a suggestion on possibly reducing sever management headaches in the future.

I used to run marketing, part of my responsibilities was the web. When we make major web changes, I'd ask the IT to do it on a separate server as beta version, basically, making sure everything works on the beta site before making it live or take down the old version & turn on the new. When we made server migration, we had a back-up server just in case.

In short, when making changes, there's always dual server running in parallel. I am not sure if dual server is practical for CPF, however, since CPFMP is already on a separate server, perhaps when making major CPF changes, you could make a temp. "CPF lite" with a copy of last 2 month contents running on CPFMP? That way, CPF will be up running with limited functions but still allow everyone to get on it & enjoy the site while risky server updates could be performed in parallel?

Just some food for thoughts

[Rees]

Really nice user name you have.

Bill

I wanted just Ree, but it was taken on CPF and I wanted to keep my SN the same on here as CPF. I've gone by it since I was little.

[romteb]

Greta,

I have a suggestion on possibly reducing sever management headaches in the future.

I used to run marketing, part of my responsibilities was the web. When we make major web changes, I'd ask the IT to do it on a separate server as beta version, basically, making sure everything works on the beta site before making it live or take down the old version & turn on the new. When we made server migration, we had a back-up server just in case.

Yep that is the standard, you duplicate your forum on the new server, work on it as long as necessary to make it functionnal and when ready you make the old forum read only and update the new one with the database update that occured since you duplicated the forum, take care of the dns and voila , if done properly it should be almost transparent to the user with very little downtime if any.

[127.0.0.1]

Greta,

I have a suggestion on possibly reducing sever management headaches in the future.

I used to run marketing, part of my responsibilities was the web. When we make major web changes, I'd ask the IT to do it on a separate server as beta version, basically, making sure everything works on the beta site before making it live or take down the old version & turn on the new. When we made server migration, we had a back-up server just in case.

In short, when making changes, there's always dual server running in parallel. I am not sure if dual server is practical for CPF, however, since CPFMP is already on a separate server, perhaps when making major CPF changes, you could make a temp. "CPF lite" with a copy of last 2 month contents running on CPFMP? That way, CPF will be up running with limited functions but still allow everyone to get on it & enjoy the site while risky server updates could be performed in parallel?

Just some food for thoughts

actually the best way is 2 VMware esxi hosts, running HA VM's, and both iScsi and NFS storage

there are a dozen ways to guarantee 5 9's, what I post ^^^ is what I'd consider simple and easy, and quick to set up

[milkyspit]

PhotonWrangler, if you don't mind me asking, how did you generate that chart? Pretty snazzy.

It's resolving to the old IP in a lot of places, so I don't think it's propagated very far yet -

Location	IP address(es)	TTL	Resolve time
Singapore, Singapore:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	271
Amsterdam2, Netherlands:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
Florida, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	69
Amsterdam3, Netherlands:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	215
Hong Kong, China:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	261
Sydney, Australia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	214
München, Germany:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	255
Cologne, Germany:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	124
New York, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	19
Stockholm, Sweden:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	150
Santa Clara, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	264
Vancouver, Canada:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	235
London, United Kingdom:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	109
Madrid, Spain:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	197
Padova, Italy:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	162
Austin, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	164
Amsterdam, Netherlands:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
Paris, France:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	126
Shanghai, China:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
Melbourne, Australia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	360
Copenhagen, Denmark:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	131
Lille, France:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	154
San Francisco, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	134
Zurich, Switzerland:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	162
Mumbai, India:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	477
Chicago, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	50
Nagano, Japan:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	418
Haifa, Israel:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	376
Auckland, New Zealand:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	370
Antwerp, Belgium:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	127
Groningen, Netherlands:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	125
Moscow, Russia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	321
Dublin, Ireland:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	110
Oslo, Norway:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	167
Kharkov, Ukraine:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	300
Manchester, United Kingdom:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	109
Vilnius, Lithuania:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	319
Bucharest, Romania:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	225
Bangkok, Thailand:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	792
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	572
Cape Town, South Africa:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	701
Glasgow, United Kingdom:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	124
Lisbon, Portugal:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	185
Chicago, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	29
Dallas, U.S.A.:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	74
Cairo, Egypt:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	428
Amsterdam1, Netherlands:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	112
Buenos Aires, Argentina:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	1816
Istanbul, Turkey:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	212
Gdansk, Poland:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	336
Beijing, China:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
Belgrade, Serbia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	346
Toronto, Canada:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	151
Novosibirsk, Russia:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	371
Athens, Greece:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	374
Frankfurt, Germany:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	142
Sofia, Bulgaria:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	326
Budapest, Hungary:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	333
Sao Paulo, Brazil:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
Paris, France:	97.74.124.146	1h 0m 0s	522

[Obijuan Kenobe]

Greta,

I have a suggestion on possibly reducing sever management headaches in the future.

I used to run marketing, part of my responsibilities was the web. When we make major web changes, I'd ask the IT to do it on a separate server as beta version, basically, making sure everything works on the beta site before making it live or take down the old version & turn on the new. When we made server migration, we had a back-up server just in case.

In short, when making changes, there's always dual server running in parallel. I am not sure if dual server is practical for CPF, however, since CPFMP is already on a separate server, perhaps when making major CPF changes, you could make a temp. "CPF lite" with a copy of last 2 month contents running on CPFMP? That way, CPF will be up running with limited functions but still allow everyone to get on it & enjoy the site while risky server updates could be performed in parallel?

Just some food for thoughts

Isn't this the reason that 99% of the forums, websites, and networks in the universe are backed up, upgraded, and maintained while at the user end functionality and access remains unchanged?

To be clear, I am discussing this with the guy who posted the suggestion...not offering any suggestions to CPF. I don't like shooting myself in the foot.

obi

[zenbeam]

And I was concerned about becoming a flashaholic. Now I'm finding that even having received two new lights in the mail yesterday, they are somehow not quite as satisfying without the ability to further research and comment on them at CPF! Oh no.... CPF-aholism too?

Well, I will survive. Good luck with the site work. I'm sure the solutions will become apparent.

[PhotonWrangler]

PhotonWrangler, if you don't mind me asking, how did you generate that chart? Pretty snazzy.

Milkyspit, I used just-dnslookup.com

[TooManyGizmos]

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