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neoseikan
05-07-2010, 07:38 AM
Your classic flashlights deserve a NEOFAB drop-in!

You must love your old gears, Surefire 6P, G2, Mag-lite 2D, and so on. You may tried replace the stock bulb with kinds of LED drop-ins.

These drop-ins are useful, but you may need a better one, which is not only a budget part from 3rd manufacturer, but a perfect gift for your classic lights.

Then, choose a NEOFAB one.

http://shop.neo-fab.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/1/d1000_01_1.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/bigchelis/D1500plus.png


The idea


Balance is the style of NEOFAB products. We hope to find an optimum place for each design.

So, we choose to produce P60 size drop-in as a simple / powerful enough / robust product. You don't need to modify your stock flashlight, just use original CR123A batteries, and get the best performance. It's easy and reliable.

We have 2 versions of P60 Drop-ins, one has a 1000mA output and another 1500mA.

They all use the highest efficiency CREE LEDs, with an efficient optics, and an efficient driver.

Both of them are single level. No mode-changing, No strobe, No problem.

What you need is to put it into the Surefire flashlight, and turn it on. Enjoy the longer runtime and brighter ray.



Well. Mag-lite users want something big!

Yes, there are enough space to put in a most powerful driver, some great LEDs and a really big heatsink.

We need more power, and we can do it.

With some 3rd party parts, the 2D/3D/2C/3C mag-lites can use 2pcs or more Li-on batteries, such as 18500, 18650...

No matter what you use, when the voltage is in the range of "3.6v~18v", you can get an awesome output! Imagine it, 10W, or 15W, even higher.

With best CREE LEDs, it means 1000 Lumens, 1500 Lumens...

Oh, it will be single level too. So simple and really robust, you can use your old Mag-lite as a very solid tool again.






The progress


1A P60 size drop-in for Surefire is almost ready, you can pre-order now to get the free air-mail shipping.


(These days I was working on Legion IIs. Some need to be assembled and some drivers need to be produced. After all, almost completed. So I start working on P60 Dropins.)

We got two versions:

A: 1000mA single level 2* CR123/ RCR123
= NEOFAB D1000
B: 1500mA single level 2* CR123/ RCR123
= NEOFAB D1500

http://shop.neo-fab.com/flashlights-mods/upgrade-your-surefire-maglite-drop-ins.html

Here you can find some details.

Thanks to my friends, I got a lot of advices from them. And this drop-in will be a NEOFAB product.

* I should report the news about Legion II and parts, some of you are eager waiting for them. Anyone waiting for Legion II SST-50 lights can get them soon, I am sending them out in this weekend. And the ss parts will be sent out in order.

sfca
05-08-2010, 03:02 PM
I gotta quick question - are the specs correct: XP-E for D1000 and XP-G for D1500?

And - beam size "tight" will be bigger then "narrow"?
I assume so cause I think XP-G throwers usually have smaller hotspots. Wait.. am i assuming the correct things?

sfca
05-08-2010, 03:30 PM
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ace0001a
05-08-2010, 03:34 PM
And - beam size "tight" will be bigger then "narrow"?
I assume so cause I think XP-G throwers usually have smaller hotspots. Wait.. am i assuming the correct things?

XP-Gs have a bigger emitter die size than XR-Es and XP-Es and so the hotspot of the XP-G will be bigger than what you're thinking of.

neoseikan
05-08-2010, 04:43 PM
XP-Gs have a bigger emitter die size than XR-Es and XP-Es and so the hotspot of the XP-G will be bigger than what you're thinking of.

That's right.
XP-E can get a tighter hotspot than XP-G,
while the highest bin is R3, not R5.
So, there is a trade-off.
Don't worry, I will choose the best one.

sfca
05-08-2010, 05:21 PM
That's right.
XP-E can get a tighter hotspot than XP-G,
while the highest bin is R3, not R5.
So, there is a trade-off.
Don't worry, I will choose the best one.

Okay got it. I assumed so cause the QT hotspot was smaller then E2DL (~ same head size), though that's XR-E.
I'm going to stop meddling around with these technical affairs :laughing: (cause I always get confused) and just wait for the releases!

Thanks folks.

flashfiend
05-08-2010, 08:00 PM
Are you considering making any drop-ins with levels and when will you be releasing anymore details on the Mag drop-in?

neoseikan
05-09-2010, 03:49 AM
Are you considering making any drop-ins with levels and when will you be releasing anymore details on the Mag drop-in?

Drop-ins with level will be considered after the single level ones. I think people can see the performance first.

Mag drop-ins has its awesome driver now, and the outlooking design works are going on.

It can work with various of batteries configs, and has a ultra high efficiency - 93%.

AardvarkSagus
05-09-2010, 05:58 AM
I can't wait to see more about these. I have a couple of P60-ish lights that could use freshening up, and I have been wanting to upgrade my beater Mag 3D for a long time into a real sleeper light. The thing is beat up as all get out and I would really love to see a hugely bright beam out of it.

flashfiend
05-09-2010, 04:32 PM
In the previous thread on CPF, I believe you mentioned the Mag Drop-in delivering 4.5 amps to the LED(s) and possibly having one set to deliver 6.5 amps. Is this still the case and which LED(s) are you considering? Also do you have a price range in mind yet?

neoseikan
05-09-2010, 06:07 PM
In the previous thread on CPF, I believe you mentioned the Mag Drop-in delivering 4.5 amps to the LED(s) and possibly having one set to deliver 6.5 amps. Is this still the case and which LED(s) are you considering? Also do you have a price range in mind yet?

Hi, The current is right. In this case, I'd like to use multi-XP-G.
To get a price range, I need to produce some sample, and check the final costs.

flashfiend
05-09-2010, 11:13 PM
Hi, The current is right. In this case, I'd like to use multi-XP-G.
To get a price range, I need to produce some sample, and check the final costs.

With the 4.5 or 6.5 Amp current, I was (am) secretly hoping for a sst-series LED. I will have to see what the Multi-XP-G drop-in looks like. How many XP-G's are we talking about here?

neoseikan
05-10-2010, 01:07 AM
With the 4.5 or 6.5 Amp current, I was (am) secretly hoping for a sst-series LED. I will have to see what the Multi-XP-G drop-in looks like. How many XP-G's are we talking about here?

3 or 4 for 4.5A. more for 6.5A

neoseikan
05-22-2010, 07:37 PM
Hi, guys. I think in next week, the D1000 sample data will be released.
You can see how it performs.

AardvarkSagus
05-23-2010, 05:47 AM
Wonderful! Can't wait to see it.

ace0001a
05-23-2010, 03:04 PM
Yup, I own a Legion II and I love it...great custom flashlight product and sold at the price of a mass produced light. I know Neo's dropins are going to be up there with the best custom flashlight stuff!

VictoryIV
05-25-2010, 02:15 PM
I'm still new to all this, so apologies for my newb-ish question.

Are your drop-ins compatible with the Surefire P111?

Thanks!

-Vic

Kid9P
06-02-2010, 05:33 PM
I'd be interested in a mag drop in geared towards a
4-5-6D mag host.

Any plans for something like this?

badtziscool
06-03-2010, 06:59 AM
I would be interested in a mag drop-in as well. Both for 3D and 6D. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Kevin1322
06-04-2010, 04:41 PM
1000+ lumen drop for my mag!?! Sounds awesome! Yeah, I'm likely in, but will depend on price and beam shots of course. Personally, I would prefere at least 2 levels though, 3 preferably.

flashfiend
06-04-2010, 05:07 PM
1000+ lumen drop for my mag!?! Sounds awesome! Yeah, I'm likely in, but will depend on price and beam shots of course. Personally, I would prefere at least 2 levels though, 3 preferably.

+1. I want levels also.

neoseikan
06-05-2010, 07:39 AM
I'm still new to all this, so apologies for my newb-ish question.

Are your drop-ins compatible with the Surefire P111?

Thanks!

-Vic

Hi! I am a newbie to Surefire lights too. It can work with 6P/C2, but P111? anybody can help?

flashfiend
06-05-2010, 10:08 AM
There a thread on the P111 by bigchelis regarding a conversion that nailbender did for him. IIRC it was not a direct drop-in although the P111 uses a P60 lamp assembly. Some custom work by nailbender and some fudging by bigchelis had to be applied.

flashfiend
06-09-2010, 07:38 PM
Any more news on development for the Mag Drop-in?

neoseikan
06-09-2010, 08:37 PM
Any more news on development for the Mag Drop-in?

Not yet. When I have the D1000/D1500 done, I will go on designing that.

neoseikan
06-11-2010, 09:00 AM
The preview from ace0001A
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=278768

neoseikan
06-12-2010, 06:51 PM
Both D1000 and D1500 are available now.

AardvarkSagus
06-13-2010, 07:35 AM
Sweet! Can't wait to see them.

neoseikan
06-22-2010, 05:31 AM
The first batch has been sent out for a few days.
one package arrived, and others just got out of the custom of U.S.

torchfreak
06-22-2010, 06:46 AM
I too am interested in a Maglite drop-in - 3D. Have been thinking about the TLE-6EXB / Malkoff. Maybe I should hold off a bit and check this out... :popcorn:

AardvarkSagus
06-22-2010, 06:46 AM
Excellent. Should only be another day or two before impressions start rolling out.

elumen8
06-22-2010, 11:31 AM
Now that your P60 style drop-ins are out, how about a Mag 2C product that could run maybe two or three cr123 primaries.

Thanks,
JB

AardvarkSagus
06-22-2010, 02:32 PM
I wouldn't say the P60's are out quite yet. The early pre-release models aren't even in the hands of reviewers quite yet.

elumen8
06-23-2010, 08:57 PM
I wouldn't say the P60's are out quite yet. The early pre-release models aren't even in the hands of reviewers quite yet.

Ooops my bad, jumped the gun a little early. ace0001a only got his prototype review out today.

JB