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4sevens
08-15-2009, 06:12 PM
[Continued from Part 1 (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198575)]


http://www.4sevens.com/images/47_q/quark_titanium.jpg (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=297_325)

Hello everyone,

We're happy to announce a special limited-edition run of 4Seven's Titanium Quarks with XPG-R4 emitters (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=297_325)!

Yes, that's right - titanium. And, right again - we got ourselves lined up for a small batch of XPG R4 emitters! These LED's are rarer than hen's teeth and are literally unavailable to the market.

We've decided to put these emitters into a special run of 500 pieces of titanium Quarks! This limited run will have their titanium polished to a mirror shine, be individually serial numbered, and be fitted with the XPG R4 LEDs that are currently unavailable anywhere on the planet.

Due to the special nature of these models, we are going to do the pre-ordering in a very particular way with two pre-order "stages." So please read the plan carefully!


Pre-Order Stages

Pre-Order Stage 1
First, we'll open all the titanium quarks for a two-week pre-order where there is no limit to how many Quarks you can choose. During these two weeks, we will watch the purchase quantities closely to get an idea of the demand for each model. All models will be available with "unlimited" pre-order slots. So, if you pre-order during this time and see an "out of stock" message, that's alright! You can just ignore the automatically generated message and order however many you'd like.

Pre-Order Stage 2
After the first two weeks of stage 1, we will finalize our production numbers and being production on the titanium Quarks. We will then apply our final production numbers to each titanium Quark on our store, and we will restrict pre-orders to these final numbers. What this means is that after we enter stage 2, the clock is ticking - once the production amount is reached in pre-orders, that specific titanium Quark will no longer be available!

So, for example, let's say during stage 1, 30 people pre-order a titanium Quark AA. Then, when we enter stage 2, perhaps we'll decide to produce only 50 titanium Quark AAs. That means we will allow just 20 more pre-orders before the titanium Quark AA is unavailable for further purchase.

Make sense? Production should take about four weeks, and then we'll start shipping them out!

If any titanium Quarks are still available after we start shipping them out, we'll of course leave them open for purchase while supplies last.

So, to sum up, here's our expected schedule:
8/14-8/27, Pre-Order Stage 1
8/28-9/25, Pre-Order Stage 2
9/28, Titanium Quarks arrive and start shipping!


Titanium Quark Collector's Set

The first 120 titanium Quarks produced (those with serial numbers 1-120) will be part of very special collector's sets. Each collector's set comes with one of each titanium Quarks: AA, AA², 123, and 123².

Each collector's set comes with a handsome rugged carrying case with custom form-fitted foam to safely carry these gems. Only 30 collector's sets will be available (30 sets, 4 Quarks per set = 120 Quarks).

You must specify whether you want the entire set to be regular Quarks or tactical Quarks. The set cannot "mix and match" regular and tactical variations.

You must specify whether you want the Quark 123 in the set to come with the clip or without the clip (remember, the 123 either has a clip installed at the factory, or has no clip at all).

Please use the comments box when checking out to specify these details when you purchase the collector's set.


Questions and Answers

1) Can I choose a serial number?
No, sorry we will not be holding specific numbers. Please don't ask.
2) Will XPG's be available for future Quarks?
No, not at this point in time.
3) When do you charge my credit card?
Charges are placed when the pre-order is made. Sorry there is not another way around this. This is the only way to secure your titanium Quark.
4) What are the outputs for these special editions?
We're working on these and we'll let you know as soon as we've got them.


You can find all the models listed on our website here (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=297_325). The product descriptions are still under construction until we finalize the output numbers.


Tacticals
Quark 123 Tactical Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1810): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1810&cPath=297_325)
Quark 123 Tactical (no clip) Titanium L.E. (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1811): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1811&cPath=297_325)
Quark 123² Tactical Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1812): $99.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1812&cPath=297_325)
Quark AA Tactical Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1813): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1813&cPath=297_325)
Quark AA² Tactical Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1814): $99.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1814&cPath=297_325)


Regulars
Quark 123 Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1804): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1804&cPath=297_325)
Quark 123 (no clip) Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1805): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1805&cPath=297_325)
Quark 123² Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1806): $99.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1806&cPath=297_325)
Quark AA Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1807): $89.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1807&cPath=297_325)
Quark AA² Titanium Limited Edition (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1808): $99.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1808&cPath=297_325)




Quark Titanium Collector's Set (http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_325&products_id=1815): $499.00 http://www.4sevens.com/templates/4sevens_B2B_v1/images/buttons/english/button_buy_now.gif (http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?action=buy_now&products_id=1815&cPath=297_325)

UPDATE 8/29:
Quark Titanium Limited Edition Pre-order phase 1 is now over. We would like to thank everyone for your enthusiasm, pre-orders and your confidence in us. The response has be overwhelming. There are over 600 units ordered already for a product that has not seen the light of day (I'm the only one that has a unit with a XPG R4 in aluminum). I will be getting a proto sometime next week and I'll post pictures.

When the orders exceeded 500 units we were in a quandary to either cut off phase 1 or extend the numbers beyond 500 units. Both ways will make certain people unhappy. Eventually we decided to go with the latter as a compromise. There will be a total of 700 complete serial numbered units.

We are now in phase two but only for a very short time. There are only a handful of each model left (less than the fingers on your hands), so if you're waiting, nows the time to pick them up because once each model is out, they cannot be ordered anymore. So phase two will be very short - we anticipate only 2-3 days. Actually some models are already out.

Production will start next week after I approve the prototypes. Also, we will order a number of spare heads, bodies and tails to meet the flashaholic's need to lego-ify their lights - these will also be in limited quantities - when they are out they will be gone. They will be priced accordingly as spare parts to help us justify getting the extras made as well as help curb the demand for them. Yes, it is possible to purchase all the parts to make a complete light without accessories, but it won't be cost effective. The point of the spare parts for supporting the need to "lego" the lights and not for putting together complete lights.

We will keep you updated on the progress of the run as well as the details of the anticipated collector's sets!

Also, I've changed the number of collector's sets from 20 sets to 30 sets.
The custom case work requires that I have 30 units made. :)


Important Announcement, 10/16/2009

Hi everyone,

The Quark Titaniums indeed have shipped from factory. We have two VERY IMPORTANT announcements to make and if you ordered a Quark AA-2 (two celled), please pay careful attention because we need to hear back from you before we ship your light.

1. The Collectors Sets are slightly held up by the case manufacturer. Those case inserts (yes, they are very special and their details are still unannounced) were delayed and we have been told they will ship to us on Monday. So we're looking to get the sets out late next week or possibly the beginning of the next week. Please bear with us a little longer. We will keep you informed in this thread as well as on our front page at www.4Sevens.com (http://www.4Sevens.com).

2. The Quark AA-2 (two celled AA) has cosmetic issues with the body. We believe it's a minor problem and it doesn't affect the these lights' functionality.

However, some may have a problem with this, so we will offer a refund if you purchased a Quark AA-2. Therefore, we need to hear from everyone who has ordered a QAA-2 before we will release your shipment.

Please note that we have observed this problem only on the QAA-2's.

The blemish is from the lathed surface which has some 'waves' on the surface. We've tried to send them back for another round of polishing and have not been able to remove the 'waves.' Please see the pictures below:

http://chows.smugmug.com/photos/682571403_o4YTy-L.jpg

http://chows.smugmug.com/photos/682571349_fR32K-L.jpg

http://chows.smugmug.com/photos/682571258_ECZJ7-L.jpg

http://chows.smugmug.com/photos/682571299_Tg2Cf-L.jpg



For those who want a refund, we'll issue you an immediate refund and we'll most likely list your QAA-2 titanium up again at the same price and with these flaws indicated in the description.

Everyone who ordered a QAA-2, please email us (customerservice@4sevens.com) with your order number in the subject line and tell us if you want us to ship your Quark AA-2 or if you want a refund. We will also email you individually soon so you can just reply to that email as well.

Given the rarity (one-time run and serialized) and low price of these Quark Titaniums, I think we will not have any problems selling them even with these slight cosmetic problems. Therefore, if you're thinking of getting a refund, please be absolutely certain of your decision.



Titanium Spare Parts (posted 11/18)
Just a note to everyone, we're shooting to have the Titanium Spare Parts listed up by this Sunday - 3:00pm, EST. Also, we have a couple sets left over which we'll probably be listing up. Pricing and details to come!

-Peter
:thumbsup:


Update 11/24/2009:
Just a quick note - there are a handful of Quark Titanium Sets still available - mainly from people backing out before we shipped. Grab'em before they're gone!

http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=297_325_373

DM51
11-03-2009, 06:09 AM
Part 1 (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198575) was approching 2,000 posts, so to avoid any possibility of a problem the thread is continued here.

mr.snakeman
11-03-2009, 06:58 AM
Both my Ti Quarks (yes, I finally received my 123 regular ordered from the U.S.) show no tendency to angling at all, parallell edges all the way around all edges. Me happy :thumbsup:.

kwkarth
11-03-2009, 07:09 AM
Part 1 (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=198575) was approching 2,000 posts, so to avoid any possibility of a problem the thread is continued here.

FYI, we're running the same (vBulletin) BBS software that CPF is using here, on another Web site that I help moderate and we have threads with over 12,000 replies, still going strong.

DM51
11-03-2009, 07:14 AM
Thanks for the info, kwkarth - I'll pass it on. However there was a time not so long ago when we did lose some threads that weren't uber-long, and it may have been to do with the server we were using at the time, rather than the software. It's certainly greatly improved now, but we don't want to leave things to chance.

kwkarth
11-03-2009, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the info, kwkarth - I'll pass it on. However there was a time not so long ago when we did lose some threads that weren't uber-long, and it may have been to do with the server we were using at the time, rather than the software. It's certainly greatly improved now, but we don't want to leave things to chance.


I totally agree with you. Caution is better than regret any day! I'm not saying you wouldn't have problems with the versions of vB you're running here, (I haven't compared versions) but at least we know it can be done. Looks like we (at the other site, are running vBulletin® Version 3.8.4, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2) So, we're on the same main version as CPF, but I'm not sure about the mods on ours.

Feel free to PM me for more discussion on this topic...
Back to our regularly scheduled thread...:thanks::goodjob:DM51

berry580
11-03-2009, 01:29 PM
i have four samples of the Quark Tis in total now, and i failed to see any normal anglelights.

All my Quark Tis arrived safely, thank you David! =)

kwkarth
11-03-2009, 01:50 PM
i have four samples of the Quark Tis in total now, and i failed to see any normal anglelights.

All my Quark Tis arrived safely, thank you David! =)

:huh2:

DimeRazorback
11-03-2009, 01:56 PM
:thinking: :shrug:

I just received my 123 Tactical.

It's nice. I wasn't as excited as I expected I would be when I opened it unfortunately.

I like the floody beam, and no green tint for me.

It is rather blue though. I don't mind.

Mine came fairly scuffed up, so I don't think this will be a shelf queen.
I won't intentionally destroy it however.

I am now looking forward to some nice floody lights utilising the XP-G's.

:twothumbs

timbo114
11-03-2009, 01:59 PM
RE: Thread cleaning ....

I lubed up with NO-OX-ID A Special....
twisted the head and tail 4 times in each direction (pushing, then pulling)

DimeRazorback
11-03-2009, 02:01 PM
I wish I had of ordered that model!

mr.snakeman
11-03-2009, 02:07 PM
I wish I had of ordered that model!
Me too:broke:and look how smart he was to put clear heat-shrink tubing over the tip of the clip.

berry580
11-03-2009, 02:12 PM
Maybe you guys haven't been following, but before :huh: or :thinking: further, have a look here (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showpost.php?p=2382274&postcount=1960) and there response from 4sevens here (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showpost.php?p=2382354&postcount=1966).

timbo114
11-03-2009, 02:21 PM
Me too:broke:and look how smart he was to put clear heat-shrink tubing over the tip of the clip.
;)


I've been following along - my TiQ has nothing but laser straight body parts and joints. :thumbsup:

DimeRazorback
11-03-2009, 02:27 PM
Me too:broke:and look how smart he was to put clear heat-shrink tubing over the tip of the clip.

I'm just using the finger grip on mine, to protect it from the clip.


Maybe you guys haven't been following, but before :huh: or :thinking: further, have a look here (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showpost.php?p=2382274&postcount=1960) and there response from 4sevens here (http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showpost.php?p=2382354&postcount=1966).

Nah, I haven't really been following. I got sick of seeing all these pics when I didn't even have a shipping notice yet :laughing:

Thankfully, I didn't receive an "anglelight" :laughing:

curiousCrandall
11-03-2009, 02:57 PM
no alignment problems here on my Ti AA--straight, tight, and outta sight.

uplite
11-03-2009, 03:05 PM
Sexiest...Quark...photo...ever. :thumbsup:

Seriously, that is some impressive camera work. Makes me want one. :)

Is that your face reflected on the left shoulder of the battery tube?


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/myglxtacy/DSCF2647-1.jpg

Cuso
11-03-2009, 06:21 PM
Someone posted something too large, I have to side-scroll now...:(

Crenshaw
11-03-2009, 06:41 PM
I reallllly dont wanna scroll through the the entire other thread...so did david confirm anywhere that these were 6al-4v?

Crenshaw

PeaceOfMind
11-03-2009, 06:50 PM
Found it, post 682 in the other thread:

"It's TA4 Alloy (Ti-3Al) "

If that's what you were looking for

Crenshaw
11-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Found it, post 682 in the other thread:

"It's TA4 Alloy (Ti-3Al) "

If that's what you were looking for

thanks! i was expecting Ti-6AL-4V...now ill have to go look for info on Ti-3AL

Crenshaw

Toohotruk
11-03-2009, 10:46 PM
:popcorn:

Henk_Lu
11-04-2009, 01:50 AM
I'm gonna look for the postman meanwhile, perhaps he has a parcel with a Titanium Quark-Set for me... :tired:

iocheretyanny
11-04-2009, 02:40 AM
Is a Quark AA with a 1.7 Lithium battery brighter then with NIMH or Alkaline?

Freeze_XJ
11-04-2009, 02:44 AM
I thought they were voltage-regulated at max, so probably yes. Might as well depend on how much oomph your battery can deliver, as alkalines tend to have a problem there.

DM51
11-04-2009, 02:56 AM
timbo114... that is a very good photo, but it is over the maximum permitted size. Please re-size it to comply with Rule 3 (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/Rules.html#siglines).

HKJ
11-04-2009, 03:19 AM
Is a Quark AA with a 1.7 Lithium battery brighter then with NIMH or Alkaline?

Yes, the brightness will increase until about 2.4 volt, before it stabilizes.

timbo114
11-04-2009, 05:02 AM
:oops: image is now 800x600

DM51
11-04-2009, 05:08 AM
:oops: image is now 800x600Thanks, and it hasn't lost anything by being a little smaller - it's a very good photo.

Toohotruk
11-04-2009, 04:24 PM
That is definitely a gorgeous picture! :naughty:

linger
11-04-2009, 08:06 PM
looks just like mine, but number 170.
:party:I won the tint lottery. My beam looks white, slightly reddish compared to the r5 drop-in I made (that r5 from cutter is green tinted). Someone commented long ago that they prefer the polished surface feel to the knurling, that it was grippier. I totally agree, that polished surface is a wonder indeed.
I'll have to sand down the body tube though, too tight for my AW 17670.
And %100 on the contact ring. Even though it felt finger tight upon arrival, light function was intermittent so I tightened it up with a tool

cdosrun
11-05-2009, 04:50 AM
Sorry, a little OT but..

Has anyone else in the UK (South Coast here) received their Quark yet through normal delivery? I know the postal strikes will not be aiding matters but this is currently the longest I have waited for anything from David (2 weeks).

Thank you,

Andrew

ykb
11-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Hi cdosrun,
I collected mine on Wed from the post office, as it got flagged for £16~ tax and handling fee. Don't know if that delayed it tho.

Haz
11-05-2009, 05:38 PM
I received mine!!!, really impressed with the Ti Quarks. The interface, design, output are really well thought out. I especially like the output levels which are spaced out to useful output levels. The threads are nice square cuts which means less cross threading risks. David has really done well with the Quarks, right down to the box and accessories. It's has the complete lanyard, clip, velcro pouch, hand grip. The box is nicely finished in a rubbery texture. The plastic packaging is made really tough, which appears to be capable of surviving a fall from the back of a plane, yet it can be accessed without cutting open the packaging.

moses
11-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Can anyone here do a ceiling bounce test with a light meter and compare the equivalent Ti Quark and regular Quark? Curious how that compares.

Mo

Henk_Lu
11-05-2009, 11:37 PM
Mine have been into national customs for the last 30 hours... I wonder how long they will play with them. It would have been easy to avoid this : Writing a value on the declaration custom officers are used to with flashlights! Would have been much quicker and certainly cheaper! :ohgeez:

Let's wait.................

cdosrun
11-06-2009, 12:51 AM
YKB,

Thank you, will have to see if there is a card waiting for me tonight. I was expecting the VAT charge; just really object to paying £8 for the Royal Mail's 'handling fee' when it costs as much as the tax - no problem with paying tax.

Hopefully I will have the light by Saturday morning.


Andrew

Henk_Lu
11-06-2009, 02:13 AM
Well, I just sent the invoice to customs as I got a letter from tzhem requesting it, they will proceed on monday and I will get my lights on tuesday. If an invoice had been with the parcel, I would probably have gotten it today.

Do I have problems with paying taxes? As a civil servant I mustn't have a problem with that, but I already got items more expensive than this set which passed without a problem. Another stupid detail is, that if you order 10 items one by one, they are free, if you get 4 items together, you get charged. However, the Law is the Law, I pay my dues, but it makes me angry loosing another two days because of the missing document! :mad:

Let's make the glass half-full again : Another shipment should reach me today, which was immediately cleared : Two Turbos! :party:
To be honest, I preffer getting only one parcel per day, so that I know on what to focus on!

cdosrun
11-06-2009, 02:57 AM
Mine have been into national customs for the last 30 hours... I wonder how long they will play with them. It would have been easy to avoid this : Writing a value on the declaration custom officers are used to with flashlights! Would have been much quicker and certainly cheaper! :ohgeez:

Let's wait.................

It's not that I disagree but one needs to be careful here. A dealer not a million miles away might have previously made more 'normal' declarations of value but has since resorted to putting the true value on the form. I believe there are some potentially nesty consequences for breaking the law and, quite rightly, 4Sevens is on the safe side. (Like you Henk, need to be careful because of my job).

As I said, not trying to avoid tax but that RM charge does offend! Wish I could afford to buy all the new 4Sevens bits and pieces. Perhaps piecemeal after Christmas.....

Andrew

Henk_Lu
11-06-2009, 03:30 AM
It's not that I disagree but one needs to be careful here. A dealer not a million miles away might have previously made more 'normal' declarations of value but has since resorted to putting the true value on the form. I believe there are some potentially nesty consequences for breaking the law and, quite rightly, 4Sevens is on the safe side. (Like you Henk, need to be careful because of my job).

As I said, not trying to avoid tax but that RM charge does offend! Wish I could afford to buy all the new 4Sevens bits and pieces. Perhaps piecemeal after Christmas.....

Andrew

You are probably right, it is another thing if you have a more or less large company with a visible internet presence where prices are easy to be determined or if you get a light from a custom manufacturer whose prices are more or less a CPF-secret!

What's more, a private person can sell everything for the price he or she wants to (as it can be used items), a dealer can't, there are official prices for new items and large discounts have to be explained.

There surely are nasty consequences, but we wont discuss those things here. The last thing I'll do is advising someoen to break the laws. I was excited and upset when I wrote about the low value declaration, my excuses for that. It was the obvious thought that came in my mind and I didn't think of the fact that other items I got were not sent by official dealers. What's more, it is easier to lower a value on a single custom item which can go from an amount X to 50 times that price which only an expert could determine exactly than for a set of Titanium Quarks by 4Sevens which come in a quality case and have "collector's set" written on it.

I don't know if P&T charges anything for the customs declaration, I once got something by DHL on which I had to pay small taxes, thex didn't charge. I'll let you know.

On tuesday evening I'll hold the Quarks in my hands and teh rest wilol be forgotten! :p

Jenskh
11-06-2009, 04:23 AM
Can anyone here do a ceiling bounce test with a light meter and compare the equivalent Ti Quark and regular Quark? Curious how that compares.

Mo
I do not hav a regular quark, but I have compared my Ti Quark AA with my old Fenix L1D and L2D with a Q5 led.
With my setup, the Ti Quark with NiMh or Duracell alkaline, gives 6.2 lux. The L1D with same battery gives 8.2 lux. This means that my old L1D is significantly brighter than my new Quark XPG which I found a little disappointing. Fortunately the Quark can use a 14500 battery. That gave me a lux value of 25.4!!!.
As a comparison, my L2D gives 16.1 lux, and that light I have measured to give 163 lumens.

I have not measured the lumens of my Ti Quark yet, but the measurements described above, indicates that it gives far less than the advertised 90 lumens on a NiMh battery, and far more than 200 lumens with a Li-ion battery.

R@ndom
11-06-2009, 04:32 AM
I do not hav a regular quark, but I have compared my Ti Quark AA with my old Fenix L1D and L2D with a Q5 led.
With my setup, the Ti Quark with NiMh or Duracell alkaline, gives 6.2 lux. The L1D with same battery gives 8.2 lux. This means that my old L1D is significantly brighter than my new Quark XPG which I found a little disappointing. Fortunately the Quark can use a 14500 battery. That gave me a lux value of 25.4!!!.
As a comparison, my L2D gives 16.1 lux, and that light I have measured to give 163 lumens.

I have not measured the lumens of my Ti Quark yet, but the measurements described above, indicates that it gives far less than the advertised 90 lumens on a NiMh battery, and far more than 200 lumens with a Li-ion battery.

Please, describe the setup you are using.

Jenskh
11-06-2009, 05:23 AM
In this case, I have just placed the lights tailstanding on the dinner table beneath a white ceiling, and also placed the light censor on the table right beside the light (pointing upwards). I think this should give a representative comparison between these lights since the beam profiles are not very different.

adnj
11-06-2009, 05:43 AM
I have a P2D (same head as the L2D). The Quark Ti 123^2 on high (head loose) is brighter than the P2D on Turbo (head tight).

Jenskh
11-06-2009, 06:33 AM
Oh yes, I am sure. As you can see above, my Ti Quark AA is MUCH brighter than my L2D when driven by a 14500 cell. It is also far brighter than my P1D. This light (the Quark) really needs a higher voltage than a single NiMh to be able to impress with its output.

uplite
11-06-2009, 08:19 AM
I have just placed the lights tailstanding on the dinner table beneath a white ceiling, and also placed the light censor on the table right beside the lightAha - that's the problem! The light censor thinks your Quark is unacceptably bright, so he is turning it down when you aren't looking. ;) :laughing:

-Jeff

Flic
11-06-2009, 09:28 AM
Canada Post has just delivered mine (123 No-clip and 123-2). They are wonderful! Great beam and fantastic output. Mine are all scratch-free and the body parts are perfectly straight. However the comments about the threads needing work is very much true. Time to do some cleaning/conditionning.

wild68fury
11-06-2009, 02:20 PM
My 123x2 shipped today. I wonder what the # will be...

iocheretyanny
11-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Maybe it has been already published - but what are the official lumens ratings for the TI Quarks?

berry580
11-06-2009, 09:03 PM
Maybe it has been already published - but what are the official lumens ratings for the TI Quarks?I don't know the official lumens rating. But based on results from my lightbox, the Ti 123^2 with 16340 on turbo has just slightly higher output compared to my M2XC4 Neutral on high (rated at 300 lumens), while others on turbo has slightly less output compared to my M2XC4 Neutral on high.

If Eagletac's lumens rating are correct, Ti 123^2 should have over 300lumens while the rest has just slightly less than 300lumens, im guessing about 270-280lumens, these are probably not OTF lumens though.