Watching the weather

[Greta]

Thought I'd post something for you all to do while kicking back and enjoying your wine and cigars... :)

Living where I do, we tend to keep a close eye on the weather... especially when there are such things as Excessive Heat Warnings... :ironic:

So this is what I have up on my computer all day... on days like today...

National Weather Service... and the Raw Obs for Lake Havasu City, AZ (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=C4434&num=48). What gets me is the humidity... 3% ?!?!?!? .... yeah... it's a dry heat... :ironic:

[Radio]

Cool!!! We have had record low temperatures here!

Local Weather (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w5=pop&w6=rh&w7=thunder&w8=rain&AheadHour=48&FcstType=graphical&textField1=42.2696&textField2=-71.8089&site=all&BackDay.x=42&BackDay.y=20)

[hburner]

I don't mine 100 deg heat with no humidity.

But 80 deg. heat with high humidity just kills me, shew!!!!!!!!!!

Ain't but one good thing about the humidity, at night when it is high, my flashlihgt beams can be seen alot better!!!!!!!!! hb!

[Greta]

Predicted high for today... 119°F.... :sweat:

[TxTroubleMaker]

Thought I'd post something for you all to do while kicking back and enjoying your wine and cigars... :)

Living where I do, we tend to keep a close eye on the weather... especially when there are such things as Excessive Heat Warnings... :ironic:

So this is what I have up on my computer all day... on days like today...

National Weather Service... and the Raw Obs for Lake Havasu City, AZ (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=C4434&num=48). What gets me is the humidity... 3% ?!?!?!? .... yeah... it's a dry heat... :ironic:


Here Sasha,
You are more than welcome to have some of our humidity...:eek:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/02streak/NBWeather3.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/02streak/NBWeather.jpg

Cool web site, thanks for sharing the link!:thumbsup:

[TITAN1833]

where I live in the UK it is a cool 64'f with 68% humidity,very cool for this time of year we are going into mid summer.:mecry:but there again the UK is known for unpredictable weather.

[Greta]

TTM... you can keep THAT kind of humidity... :eeew: ... although, if it is in the form of rain, I would definately welcome it.

Seeing your location just brought back a memory... Back in 1981, I was stationed at Goodfellow AFB and a bunch of us went to New Braunfels for a beer fest... Um... the memory is a bit blurry... :crazy: :laughing:

[TxTroubleMaker]

TTM... you can keep THAT kind of humidity... :eeew: ... although, if it is in the form of rain, I would definately welcome it.

Seeing your location just brought back a memory... Back in 1981, I was stationed at Goodfellow AFB and a bunch of us went to New Braunfels for a beer fest... Um... the memory is a bit blurry... :crazy: :laughing:

LoL, it was probably Wurstfest, which starts right at the end on October and goes through the first week of November. It's a good time, lots of beer and awesome food.:drunk:

Our humidity around here is usually pretty high even with out the rain. I'm originally from west Texas, where our climate was very similar to yours, so I'm right there with you on the Eeeew part. I kinda miss that dry heat...

[rdh226]

Predicted high for today... 119°F.... :sweat:

What is it they say, it hits 100 twice a year, once in Spring going up, and then again in Fall coming down?

-RDH

[Greta]

Yep... that's about right.... :laughing:

What kinda sucks right now is that it's still going down into the low 80's at night... so my pool is still on the cool side (for me, at least)... and I can't go swimming at night... which I love to do! I'll go out and swim at midnight or so and sit under the waterfall 'til I'm sleepy... then go to bed and sleep like a baby. As a chronic insomniac, I look foward to when the air temps and pool temps allow for that... :)

[Greta]

LOL!!! I think we broke the reporting "machine" or something.... Check this out!! (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=C4434&num=48).... Yes, it is currently 118°.... but the humidity is NOT 100%! Look at 2:32PM.... 117°, dew point at -7... humidity... 1%!!! WOW!

[Radio]

Rain just started here, what a bummer!!! Looks like two inches expected overnight :(

[Greta]

Rain just started here, what a bummer!!! Looks like two inches expected overnight :(
*snicker*.... 2 inches overnight... that's our annual rainfall! :crackup:

[MarNav1]

When I was in the Army (83-87) we used to spend 3-4 weeks a year around Barstow-Death Valley area. Drank approximately 35 quarts of water a day.
Like Sasha says your shirt could be soaked in sweat and be dry in 5 minutes or so. Now living in Nebraska generally you'll get a number of days where the temp is 92-95 or 98 with dew points in the 65-70 range, very uncomfortable outside. And you can't get dry outside either, AC is a must.

[TxTroubleMaker]

LOL!!! I think we broke the reporting "machine" or something.... Check this out!! (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=C4434&num=48).... Yes, it is currently 118°.... but the humidity is NOT 100%! Look at 2:32PM.... 117°, dew point at -7... humidity... 1%!!! WOW!

LoL!!! 1% humidity...:eek: I think the hottest I've ever experienced was 115° in west Texas, either way, that's pretty damn hot...

[3rd_shift]

The Month of June has been the second wettest on record here in the Dallas Fort Worth metropolitan complex.
You can have it if you can get to it and ship it back to Arizona. :nana:

I drove over the FM720 bridge last monday and it was like driving on water as the water was lapping at the top of the bridge.
Here is a news article on it and surrounding areas.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/070407dntexstorms.35921ef.html

A dewpoint of -7 could ice up a swamp cooler under the right conditions, right? ;)

[Greta]

A dewpoint of -7 could ice up a swamp cooler under the right conditions, right?

Don't know... don't have one... refuse to have one! Back in 1990... June 29th, to be exact... it hit 131 here. I was 8 1/2 months pregnant... big as a house... and living with my father-in-law. He had the swamper going... and thought it was just lovely... so refused to turn on the AC. I swore that day that I would never have a swamper in any house I owned.

[TedTheLed]

with 1% humidity a swamp cooler is exactly what you need.
when it's near that dry here the slightest damp breezes from the humidifier (I have a little plastic on the end table next to my bed) bring waves of pleasurable relief; you can breathe again..plus it cools at the same time -- how can you not have one?

you don't even have to buy anything; just hang all the towels/sheets/blankets you have--an indoor dryer rack would be ideal, and aim a good fan at them. keep them wet. the effect in that dryness and heat would be tremendous.

I had an idea for this house; the curtains served double duty; there are water drip system emitters located along the top of the curtain rod -- they keep the curtain damp, aim a fan at the curtain and it's instant cooling..even had a little trough under the curtain for drips..

the weather here has been over a hundred in the valleys; but I am where 'the mountains meet the sea' -- and there has been a thin film of fog from the ocean protecting the micro-climate around my house raising the humidity over 50% and keeping the temps below 80F...

go uphill a few hundred feet out of the mist and you're in blazing hot dry sun!

[Greta]

how can you not have one?

Ted... read my post above... 131°F... 8½ months pregnant... throw in some humidity... now you're talking 110°F of sticky, sweaty misery. With temps like that, moisture tends to evaporate very quickly... pretty much before it can have any cooling effect whatsoever. Even with temps like we had yesterday, it does no good at all... the cooling effect is pretty insignificant... the "icky" effect is unbearable. I'm sure my "phobia" has something to do with my "traumatic" experience of 17 years ago... probably should take it up with my therapist... but then... why? I simply hate hot and sticky. I really don't see that as a major "issue"... compared to others.

[TedTheLed]

..but Sasha I did read your post..that's why I made the suggestion that I did.
I don't know how you manage to feel sticky and sweaty when you are raising the humidity from 1% to merely 20 or 30% at most -- that would still feel pretty dry to me, but it would make breathing easier..
the part about it being too hot for an evaporative cooler just doesn't make phsics sense -- you want the water to evaporate quickly, the more evaporation the cooler the temperature.. starting with 1% humidity you could bring the temperature down quite a few degrees before the humidity became anywhere near the 'discomfort zone' ..
don't know what to tell you; maybe you are genetically a dryness-loving creature,or maybe you could use some therapy, cognitive, perhaps?
or maybe you just need a good hygrometer ?

[Greta]

Ted... with all due respect... have you ever lived in conditions like these? This morning around 6AM, the humidity was up to 14% outside... and 95 degrees... to me, it was absolutely foul. Give me dry air any day! I breathe just fine. When the humidity gets to double digits, I can't even move. When I get out of the shower, I want to be dry when I towel off... I want to put clothes on a dry body... I want my make up to stay ON my face... not slide off in streams of sweat. I don't want the hair on the back of my neck to be constantly soaked. And.... even if a swamper can drop the temp 20-30 degrees... it's still going to be around 100... in the house!.... screw that!

[UncleFester]

I'm with Sasha on the dry air thing. I like here when it's 110 and the dew point is in the 20's or low 30's. Unlike Sasha though I LOVE my swamp cooler when it's like that. However as I get older, the dew point where I give up on the swamp cooler and switch the noisy expensive box keeps getting lower. Right now I'm about at 45 degrees. Our monsoon is a little late this year which suits me fine Unfortunately (for me anyway) It's starting now. Dew point thiis morning was in the high 40's but came down a little. it's NOTHING like it was last week at this time. The dew point has a direct effect on how comfortable it is outdoors. (and indoors with the cooler running).
Sasha does the monsoon reach you up there at the London Bridge? I bet it's really horrible with your temperatures.
Ok, I'll shut up now. :whistle:

[Greta]

Keith... we didn't used to get the monsoons up here but the past couple years have seen them become a little more frequent. I noticed that the dewpoint has been up in the 40's the past couple of days and even hit 50 in the the wee hours the other day. We may have a bad season this year. I have to admit... I love the monsoon storms... they truly are beautiful here because we can see the lightning for miles and miles... stunning!

[UncleFester]

Yep, those afternoon thunderstorms the monsoon flow causes can be spectacular. That part I do like except it makes my place a giant mud hole when it rains. I just hate the humidity that the monsoon brings. I'm outside a lot and wear long sleeves for sun protection. When it gets humid my clothes stick ... you get the idea TMI....

[TedTheLed]

14% is DRY. (for humans, that is, didn't say anything about servingwenches) ;)

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/relative-humidity-d_895.html :

"....Relative humidity above 70% (and even lower at special conditions) may for normal living conditions cause condensation on cold surfaces - causing mold, corrosion and moisture related deterioration.
For humans relative humidity below 25% feels uncomfortable dry. Relative humidity above 60% feels uncomfortable wet. Human comfort requires the relative humidity to be in the range 25-60% RH...."

:shrug: If you were wet it wasn't because of humidity in the air it was because you were were sweating in normal reaction to the heat... counter-intuitively and perhaps paradoxically I still say a large-enough output evaprative cooler in those hot dry conditions would have made you more comfortable and less damp..

[UncleFester]

Ted
You are right, the stickiness comes from perspiration, not the water in the air. HOWEVER, here is the distinction: The increased humidity that the monsoon flow brings (and supsequent higher dew points) reduces the rate at which water evaproates.(because there's already more water in the air and it's not so "hungry" for water). That reduced evaporation rate reduces the cooling effect that perspiration causes. The reaction to that is to sweat even more. The increased perspiration rate combined with the slower evaporatrion rate causes a build up of moisture on our skin and clothes.
Claiming that humans like a certain humidity range is similar to saying humans like opera music or maybe rap music.... The preference will vary with the individual.

[TedTheLed]

yeah right, except we weren't discussing the humidity during monsoon season, we were discussing the effect of evaporative cooling at 1% humidity and 131 degrees F. no monsoon on the horizon.
still think an evaporative cooler and/or a fan wouldn't feel better?

your comparison of preference of music to preference for humidity outside the 25-60% comfort range is just, well, something I don't agree with..

there are certain values which the human biological machine is made to function at, or near..

[Essexman]

The weather here at work today was 21.4 deg C to 22.9 deg C, and 48% to 61% RH.

Then again that's because I work in a temperature/humidity controlled Lab.

Please note: There are NO animals invoved in my work, just electrical devices. Everytime I mention I work in a "Test lab" people get the wrong idea and give me funny looks.
Rant over.

[Greta]

... give me funny looks.

I know that look!! It's the same one I get when I tell people I run an internet community about flashlights! :crackup:

[TxTroubleMaker]

I know that look!! It's the same one I get when I tell people I run an internet community about flashlights! :crackup:

There's an internet community about flashlight???:confused::thinking: LoL, just kidding!:nana: I love this place and would be lost with out it!:thumbsup:

[TigerhawkT3]

Triple-digit temps? Crazy. At around 80F, I start to feel unpleasant, and at 85F, I can barely move.

[TigerhawkT3]

It RAINED here today! :faint: This is the first time it's ever rained in San Jose on this day of the year. I could hardly believe it.

[MarNav1]

99 degrees here today, dew point 70. Makes for a LONG day outside. Finally raining a little bit right now, 1:31am.

[jumpstat]

I like hot and humid rather than hot and dry. I was in Brighton, England between 88-93 and the dry heat really dries the skin that I need to use alot of moisturiser during those uni days.

Come over to MALAYSIA, its sunny, rains most of the year, very humid (great for the skin though)....

[BillBond]

I dislike the dry time in July when it gets over 110 deg the most.

I prefer the monsoon time in August when it hardly gets over 100 and the
humidity goes up.

[luigi]

Relative humidity does not measure the amount of water vapor in the air, only how close the water vapor is to the condensation point.
As the air is warmer the condensation point is higher and the relative humidity is lower even for the same constant amount of water vapor in the air.
This is why a 10% humidity in the desert at 100F can be more humid than a 100% humidity level in the pole.
Actually over 100F values of humidity above 40% are nearly impossible the dew point would be incredibly higher and you will be in the middle of a thunderstorm almost inmediately.
Having said that 3% is really really low :)

Luigi

[3rd_shift]

I'm finding a few swamp coolers in action in Texas and Oklahoma at some auto repair shops on my route.
They are not great, but still better than nothing.
If the humidity and dewpoints were lower, they might be better.
These shops are usually quite well ventilated.

Swamp coolers need lots of fresh, dry air from outside to work right.
Used and humid inside air has to be let out.
Otherwise, the indoor air just gets more humid and does not get any cooler as the swamp cooler runs.

[MarNav1]

91 degrees, dew point 68 at 7:36pm, very uncomfortable outside. They say it's from all the corn around here. Just got a new heat pump though, hurray!

[3rd_shift]

The seasons are changing.
:popcorn:

No more running the air conditioner here in DFW, Tx.
Now driving with the windows down. :)

[SdPunk]

The seasons are changing.
:popcorn:

No more running the air conditioner here in DFW, Tx.
Now driving with the windows down. :)


Finally. :party: I was getting tired of sweating in the begining of October. :twothumbs